The dubious Rock ‘n Roll Hall of Fame is holding a popularity contest — sorry, democracy event — to select who gets included on the rolls of the famous, and this year, Joy Division has been nominated. You can vote here for this post-punk/new-age/proto-industrial band.
Joy Division emerged in 1976 from Salford, Greater Manchester, England. The band — singer Ian Curtis, guitarist and keyboardist Bernard Sumner, bass player Peter Hook, and drummer Stephen Morris — was originally named Warsaw and gained fame for songs like “Interzone,” “Love Will Tear Us Apart,” and “She’s Lost Control.”
Tags: joy division, new wave, punk, rock 'n roll hall of fame
Hello Brett
Would you consider the last Sacramentum album “Thy Black Destiny” a mere speed metal album?
seriously,
Serious Questioner
It’s in the zone where Merciless The Awakening was, a really great album that basically made Mercyful Fate with the newer rigid rhythms of speed metal and technique borrowed from proto-death/black bands like Hellhammer, Sarcofago, Slayer, Bathory, and Sodom.
I feel like Joy Division is the least dubious of it’s genre, I hate The Cure with a passion (although I make an exception for Disintegration).
The Cure was more of a return to normal pop stylings in the template of the new sound. I guess I rate them as fairly OK for normie music but I don’t know why I would bother to listen (this applies to nearly all rock, pop, techno, and jazz and to all hip-hop and metalcore).
Normies like Varg? He’s a big fan of The Cure.
this applies to damn near everything
Joy Division were really unimpressive at writing, but at least their (small) output was harmonious and aesthetically well produced (a couple of tracks from Closer are in my opinion very good). The Cure are tedious and self-indulgent, for some reason I’m forever meeting girls (good looking, bad looking) who like them: I rejoice at your hate.
It ain’t Celtic Frost or Slayer fer sure mah nilla
Of course they’re not! Celtic Frost still amazes me after all these years, still fresh.
(Mr. Stevens: what’s your favourite by Cenotaph, the 1st or the 2nd? Thanks!)
The Gloomy Reflections of Our Hidden Sorrows is what I listen to the most, although I appreciate their other work. But TGRoOHS has a certain atmosphere and vision of the world that is appealing to me.
were you even born when The Cure released their first?
The Cure were brilliant at a time when punk was turning into dance music.
They went another way, much better.
Were you even born when Monteverdi wrote “Vespro della beata vergine”? So what?
Talking Heads were brilliant, Brian Eno was brillant. Joy Division weren’t brilliant as musicians, but they had a tone and very good lyrics (often inspired by great literature, such as Kingsley Amis or Nikolaj Gogol) – see: “Disorder”, “Heart And Soul”, “Dead Souls”.
The Cure had “The Lovecats” and a haircut: I just liked ’em when I was fourteen.
The Cure’s early run of albums – 17 Seconds, Faith, Pornography – were a far cry from Lovecats. The Cure went pop before rediscovering some form on Disintegration.
Also worth checking out is Echo and the Bunnymen’s “Heaven up Here”, Siouxsie and the Banshees “Kaleidoscope” and Warning’s “Warning” and “Electric Eyes”.
This was our 64,000th comment. Good work.
I gave this band a chance a few years ago, but it didn’t take. Later on I realized that there is such a thing not liking something but recognizing that, for better or worse, they are good at what they do. This applies to everything from junk food to serial killers to boy bands. Give credit where credit is do, but then if necessary go in and clean house with hollow points and whatnot if necessary. Not that it applies here. Maybe that’s just a clumsy way of saying know thy enemy.
Anyway, aside from King Crimson’s 80’s stuff – which was mostly so-so – this is the only track that’s kind of in that style that still resonates with me. In all fairness I’m pretty sure my stupid head is combining nostalgia and the visual aspect of the video to rise to the degree of a guilty pleasure. But it is kind of a cool re-make of a song. I think I mentioned it in some other topic. Enjoy! Or – in all likelihood – don’t.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnVldyHRcjU
Hitler’s plans included the Four Year Plan, Generalplan Ost, and the New Order, which were intended to establish a German-dominated Europe.
The Four Year Plan
A series of economic measures to rearm Germany and make it self-sufficient by 1940
Hermann Göring was in charge of the plan, which cut across the responsibilities of several cabinet ministries
Generalplan Ost
A plan to establish a “German and Aryan” community in Eastern Europe
The plan called for the forced deportation of hundreds of millions of people and the slaughter of millions of Slavs, Romanis, and Jews
The New Order
A plan to establish a pan-German racial state in Central and Eastern Europe
The plan included the colonization of Central and Eastern Europe, the Holocaust, and the expulsion or enslavement of Slavic peoples
The plan was a major factor in the start of World War II
Hitler’s plans were part of the alternative governmental structure created by the Nazi Party…SOUNDS COOL HUH?
BOY THAT IZ UF DA HIZZOK THIZ ZHIT!!!!
ADOLF IZ IN DA HOUSE
I LOVE EVIL BABY
FUCK WEAKLINGS BE A NAZICEPTICON BABY FOR EVA HAHAHA
And bring back slavery hahahaha
Roll out haterbots…
In the 10k year view, Slavs are simply the latest incursion of Homo hallbergensis into the Dragon People and should probably be shipped into Asia to continue raising the percentage of modern human among the Asiatics.
love these weird nazi rants I see on here. Amusing.
everyone associated with Hitler (including Hitler himself) was a bumbling idiot poorly suited to run a pet shop-let alone the world.
Not one of the inner circle had the intelligence or look of the “master race” they were trying to create.
A weak desk clerk hypochondriac who weighed 120 lbs wearing glasses. So NOT the poster child of a perfect aryan specimen.
A fat cross dressing slob who was an ace but was incompetent as commander of the luftwaffe.
Bormann-a farmer turned bureaucrat. Nothing really special in anyway.
Hess? lol. wackjob.
Speer? Maybe the smartest and least incompetent of all high rankers.
And Adolph? what more can be said about the pill popping, mentally impaired vegetarian buffoon who completely lost the war on every level? nothing. Moron of the highest level.
The wehrmacht was responsible for Germany’s success. Men like Guderian, Manstein and Donitz.
I am sure I’ll get a response defending the dumbasses who ran the Reich into the ground…
but the reality is the war was lost by hitler and his stooges who thought they knew warfare.
Hate the jews all you want or slavs or anyone else.
But if you think Hitler or any of his sycophants were superior to anyone-slavs, jews, blacks
you are pretty fucking stupid.
Or we could all just grow up and point out that every system since the Kings has been a failure.
What would you do if you had a rectal refraction?
“Grow up”, “Be honest” etc. I’m sure that will convince people to see things your way…
You assume people are convinced by reality or logic and are not simply choosing whatever philosophy conveniently justifies their lifestyles.
It’s a fairly useful assumption about people that might actually matter. About people in general, no.
STFU ALMOST EVERYONE SUCKS ASS…
The/black
hawaiian/estonian/raprockzilla
Elasmosaurus prime Mosquito
Egyptian metal police
I hate black women
Why?
Too loud
Too rude
Too combative
Too annoying
Too aggressive
Too bitchy
Too ugly
Too angry
Too mean spiritedness
Too dumb
Too interruptive
Naggers should be forced to fuck Japan or another race…
Any way to make blacks less annoying Brett huh?
Any way to force naggers to fuk they women?
YOU most certainly suck, that’s for sure.
Everyone follows their own logic, even yourself, you ain’t got no damn monopoly, asswipe.
I deny the objective/subjective dichotomy.
or we can “grow up” and understand that race, ethnicity or gender doesn’t matter.
only ideology.
There are blacks, jews, Indians, hispanics that share my ideology.
I consider them allies
Conversely there plenty of whites-my race-that I loathe.
My apologies for the anti-Hitler rant.
I love all things pertaining to ww2 Germany. From the military to the tech. Have a Tirpitz model I need to star working on.
But the goofy “master race” crap is tripe. Never understood the whole hero worship of a band of misfits that collectively didn’t have enough leadership experience or intellect to run a deli.
Almost as bad as a whole economic system created to protect the “worker” written by 2 dudes that never put in a hard days labor in their lives
Ideology is horseshit. It generally exists to rationalize what people want to believe is true, and this is determined by genetics.
Warsaw kicked ass! And a great band name to boot. Only the demos rock though. the guitar work of Sumner (“Bernard”) is great on the demos while at the same time it’s clear he could hardly play=good, excellent combination. Joy Division….think I’ll pass…the dutchie on the left hand side…
Hahaha
Why does Hitler hate cartoons soo much?
Yiping yip yip yip that’s Jews folks!!!
Dat dattta data daaaa dit….
So says the
Black Hawaiian Estonian lesbian hip-hop metal from hellll
MAN WASPS U GOT JOKES ABOUT LESBIAN JEWS TAKING A SHIT IM CURIOUS ABOUT IT HAHA!!!
ANY WAY TO BAN HIPSTERS RAP AND KORN FROM METAL OR ANY METALS…or murder them huh?
The/black
hawaiian/estonian/raprockzilla
Elasmosaurus prime marsgrind
Egyptian metal police
I hate wigga spigga chigga neggaz
Any way Brett legally or murderously to stop Latinos from breeding out the fucking planet
Turning all humans into speedy Gonzales hahaha
Do u even like speedy Gonzalez hahaha
Wasn’t there a negger on bugs bunny?
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HALLIE JACKSON TAKE A NICE BOOBS EXCITED BOTTOMLESS RAPROCK SHIT FOR ME HAHAHAHA YEP!!!
Brett, what is your opinion on Vangelis? Especially, music in the cyclical and contemolative style like Memories of Green, Reve, Le Singe Bleu etc.
Everything I’ve heard has been interesting. Good sense of melody, probably needed more of a Tangerine Dream style format.
cecilia keane sucks
Algir mortis sucks
Hatebreed sucks dick
I REPEAT HATEBREED IS WIGGER FAGGOTED DUPER SUPRR DUPER GAY ASS SHIT
Kill all baggy pant wearing assholes
Dear Trump
Please kill
Rappers
Deathcore
Slam metal
Prog metal death crap
Death rap transexual faggots
Transexual fucked loser assholes in general shit
Hey Brett you must hate someone right huh?
How wud ya kill nu metal dudes if you had a black metal army?
ALL CORE WIGGERS MUST DIE
Don’t flatter WIGGER nuigger behaving human scum
So says
The plesiosaurkon
Icthyhosaurus prime raprockzilla
Industrial death metal
Mercurian insect police
All butches suck my dick
Hey Brett what’s yr take on hyperghamy
Should I kill all women and mankind for this fact huh?
I think I hate beaners nuiggherz women wiggers for a reason ok?
88 hahaha everything must burn hahaha
We call “wiggers” by the politically-correct term “wolored people” now.