As it becomes clear that censorship is rampant on social media, Reddit is the latest company to stumble when its news channel censored all mention of the Orlando Pulse gay nightclub terrorist attack. According to users, the site removed all conversation about the event — including requests for a blood drive.
When asked about their behavior, the moderators of the channel — with the backing of Reddit’s admins — either ignored the queries or censored the users. In one case, a mod lashed out with an angry comment directed at a user who publicly asked why the censorship was occurring.
The result was that a channel where one expects news and information became a void of missing stories, censored comments and deleted users, resulting in over 50,000 Reddit users unsubscribing from the channel. Many went to other channels to find their news fix, since the official news channel would not provide it.
Again social media makes it clear that it is an echo chamber for officially accepted opinion. If you have the right opinion, your words will be repeated by the hive, which will make you a celebrity. People on such channels attempt to out-do each other in their flattery of popular ideas, which coincide with official opinion because most people simply repeat what they see and hear. As a result, the echo chamber intensifies.
This comes at a time when social media usage is falling, in part because of widespread distrust of government manipulation of social media such as Facebook in addition to its own bias. Some public figures are already withdrawing from social media as the inventor of the world wide web opines that social media companies and governments have turned the internet into a surveillance network. In addition to Reddit and Facebook, Twitter has also been caught pre-emptively censoring non-narrative content.
When the history of this period of time is written, it will become clear that we lived in a time of widespread suppression of information as a means of maintaining order, and that social media, far from being the counterpoint to this like the early internet, was in fact another captive means of controlling the narrative.
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Disgusting
“Again social media makes it clear that it is an echo chamber for officially accepted opinion. If you have the right opinion, your words will be repeated by the hive, which will make you a celebrity.”
I agree there are problems with sites like Reddit and Wikipedia, but this analysis is a little off imo.
Reddit and Wikipedia can give power and responsibility to obsessive people with no other qualities except spare time. So you end up with a forest of talentless mini dictators, in their place because of arbitrary circumstances, with little means of accountability. Power corrupts, and these are not good hearted Samwise Gamgees we are talking about here. They are bitter life-losers. They then champion their own causes or foibles which may be hive mind or not, and subdue opposite opinions using their position and knowledge of the interior rules.
>Reddit and Wikipedia can give power and responsibility to obsessive people with no other qualities except spare time.
That’s right – no one is better than another, and everyone is rewarded for participation, therefore the only way to get ahead or at least recognized is to participate more than everyone else. Same for jobs, multiplayer video games, music scenes, and modern society in general.
“multiplayer video games”
This is true for skill less grind games like World of WarCraft, but in skill / intellect based games, I’ve been able to beat players who have played for much longer than I had. Back when I played games.
It seems your analysis and the author’s are in agreement.
Reddit has been doomed to be an absolute shit site since its inception with it’s mechanic of upvoting comments. The only thing that’s gonna fucking happen then is that soon there will be a “correct” opinion in whichever subreddit you go to so you can get le ebik upboats xD, not to mention the extremely easy way to manipulate upvotes. Since all comments are tied to an account, people can be pre-blocked from posting in certain subreddits and there are also the good ol’ shadowbans, where it might seem that you can post, but actually nobody else can see your posts but you.
Also ties in into the push the government and big corporations have had to remove internet anonymity. That way they can more easily monitor and punish unpeople who dare to commit the heinous crime of wrongthink, more importantly posts can be dismissed by the wider community on that basis, just because someone committed wrongthink in another part of the site, he has become an unperson and his opinions on anything are now null and void. With anonymity a post’s strength rests only on its merits, namely the content of the post.
There was also a facebook group shut down after this event, forgot their name, but it was named something like Against Muslimization of America(?)… i don’t care about fags but censorship is just as wrong.
Reddit is a joke. That site (just like 4chan) is only good for finding porn pics.
A good way to get banned is to criticize an sjw fag,even calling them an sjdubbajew will bring out the hordes of retards calling for your crucifixation.
SNIPER AT THE FAG PARADE
Someone should review this.
“Four young men charged with sexual assault” is hardly newsworthy above the level of a local paper. “But they pray to the Invisible Blue Unicorn !!1″ doesn’t make this any more relevant. And neither does “one of them represents 0.005% of the members of a group we really want you to be afraid of”. Especially considering that all of this is just one of the more bizarre sidelines action of the campaign to get the UK out of the EU as evidenced by the guest starring of Nigel “Mine’s a pint!” Farage. Getting some basic facts right is also usually a good idea. The number of women allegedly sexually assaulted ‘in a single night in Cologne’ is overstated by almost 50%.
In Sweden, immigrants and their children rape more than non immigrants.
This is a statistical fact.
Source from the Swedish government: http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/05/08/br-1996-2-invandrares-och-invandrares-barns-brottslighet-1/
Significant percentages of people in muslim majority countries want death for apostates, homosexuals, and fewer rights for women. Some of them also support suicide bombings.
This is also a fact.
Source from the PEW research center:
http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/gsi2-chp1-1.png
http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/gsi2-overview-1.png
https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/picture-1.png?w=303&h=693
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2014/01/FT_clothing1314.png
Citizens of European countries such as Sweden and Britain have traveled to Syria to fight for the islamic state. Every single one who has done this was muslim.
Some of these people then return to Europe.
They have gone to Syria, to murder for the islamic state, an organisation which does kills civilians indiscriminately, and then they have RETURNED TO EUROPE.
Source from the British national news: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32026985
When people move from one country to another, they bring their values, opinions, and behaviors.
Islam is a cancer. There are evil and harmful ideologies, and you know it.
German national socialism inspired the war to conquer Europe and unite the Aryan race, and the genocide of jews. You wouldn’t argue with this, but why can’t you accept that islam and the cultures of islamic countries also inspire actions?
Swedish people don’t force young girls to marry adult men. They also don’t commit honour killings on their daughters for having sex with the wrong man, because it’s not in Sweden’s culture. It’s in the culture of the immigrants.
And before you say “white people rape too” or “it’s not all of them”: I never said that it was all of them, or that no white people rape.
Quoting the opener is sort-of lame but the intro just belongs to this album, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ASowRC8Pw&index=1&list=PLqytfNFx9GhzPyhdQaiDDVavrjAeJVcnR. Since this digging through the past is sort-of fruitless, here’s something new to go with that: https://obsceneentity.bandcamp.com/track/shadow-of-nergal. I guess it’s worthless, however, I like it.
As Sascha Lobo put it a while back: Being able to differentiate means that, after meeting ten black haired guys who were assholes in row, one doesn’t kick the eleventh in the head just because his hair is also black (paraphrase). To use your example with exaggerated numbers: Assuming 90% of all people who immigrated to Sweden had been found guilty of certain crimes, this wouldn’t communicate anything solid about the remaining 10%. Maybe they’ll also commit crimes in future. In this case, they ought to be dealt with like all other criminals. But unless they do, they’re as innocent as anyone else who didn’t.
There’s also another aspect to this. It’s called freedom of religion. Again paraphrasing someone else (Heinlein), that’s practically mostly freedom from religion. Maybe you have a religion. Maybe the guy next door has one. Or maybe not. I refuse to be bothered with this. Especially not when looking at the people trying to wield this spectre from that past. As far as I’m concerned, religious wars are over in Europe.
Obviously, you never studied probability.
One deals with EXPECTANCY based on known values.
One has to handle it with care, of course, and correlated factors must be carefully assessed.
So correlating something as simple and common as black hair with specific social behavior may be ridiculous, but correlating said behavior with a general group of close culture backgrounds (Muslim-influenced middle-eastern world, for instance) is not only plausible but justified.
I’m afraid but you misunderstood the point: Even assuming your implicit assertions about “probable behaviour of people” based on the properties you mention were true, that would still be probable behaviour. What people might do in future is not actionable, you’d still have to deal with each individual case as it does or doesn’t arise.
Actually *you* are missing the point. He’s saying that cases need not be dealt with on an individual basement if you lay out foundational rules that apply broadly. If you guess wrong 1 time out of 10, that’s acceptable. So long as your model performs 9 times out of 10 then you will come out ahead.
The text I was replying to was about deriving the probability of a certain something from statistics. It didn’t say anything about actions one could base on such a statistical model (and calling this ‘a statistical model’ is really stretching the principle of charity to its limits), “guessing wrong in 1 out of 10 cases” is neither and acceptable nor a sensible way of dealing with individuals (and besides that, ‘probability theory’ doesn’t deal with isolated cases at all but with relative frequencies of certain events of a finite set of them provided enough events are observed. These relative frequencies are expected to converge towards a certain distribution as the number of observed events increases): Every single person has both a moral and a legal right to be judged according to her own conduct.
“Every single person has both a moral and a legal right to be judged according to her own conduct.”
Stop with these red herrings.
I, nor any one else in this conversation, has claimed that every individual should be judged by anything but his own actions and his own character.
No one has said that every muslim is a rapist, murderer of civilians, arranged marrier, etc.
I didn’t claim what you seem to accuse me of. I consider the “immigrant vs native” crime statistic you referenced practically meaningless and I’ve tried to explain why. Nothing more.
It’s meaningless because it doesn’t apply to every individual?
Its meaning is that for many years in a row now, they have committed more of certain crimes (and crime in general) than other groups, including the group that is the indigenous population.
That’s obviously meaningful, no matter how you look at it.
You are basically using the “#notall” plea and that’s just a shitty excuse to ignore patterns, justified by not wanting to hurt anyone’s feelings.
People deserve to be judged as individuals retrospectively, but when it comes to jurisdiction and legislation (as in the case of immigration) patterns need to be analyzed carefully because ideally we want to predict and prevent rather than pursue and punish.
Screw the probability discussion, the only relevant question is whether the assholes are a necessary evil or just an evil. Do you mean Sweden and Europe has need for the other ones? They are an irrelevant addition at best but most likely they too are a bad presence because of how fundamentally different they are in every way. Why spend time and resources on any of them, nice or not?
I told you that I didn’t say it was all of them. I said that it was more of them than other groups.
What sort of action should be taken based on this knowledge?
Should Europe close its borders for immigration? Should they try to integrate them more when they arrive? (They’re not integrating well enough right now)
Should we do something else entirely?
There are many opinions on what shall be done, but at least acknowledge that something has to be done, because it’s a huge unsolved problem.
You gonna take that risk? Do you really want to gamble with your friends, family and everything else you love so you can pretend to be Jesus Christ and sacrifice yourself and everyone around you for “the greater good” of those not like you, who you never even met before? Islam itself is not the problem here, its that multiculturalism (really, it should be just called multiracialism, or multiethnicism) does not work. Its a really simple concept.
Speaking of freedoms, Brett had a great article a while back about freedom of association. on that other site..
At the moment, I am living in a pretty multi-ethnic society which is also a good deal distant from any ‘my people’ place (assuming such a thing existed which is decidedly doesn’t if ‘my people’ is supposed to mean much more than ‘father and mother’) and in a different country. There’s a large muslim population here and by-and-large, these are the ‘OK immigrants’ while people more of my kind (except that there are no people of my kind) are more the ‘rather not OK immigrants’. These are the realities of the situation I have to deal with, no matter if I want that or not. Minus being an also-target of the anti-immigrant-people, the situation itself has much improved since I moved here, eg, I’m no longer constantly stopped and searched by the police because I “look like one of them” (literal statement an official made about me in the past. I don’t exactly know what them means and I suspect he didn’t, either, but it’s at least related to not having a proper haircut). “It doesn’t work” is not really an option, I have to make it work. I’m absolutely convinced that I have the same right to be me as everybody else has to be him. But this obviously cuts both ways: Everybody else has the right to be not-like-me in whatever way suits him. I can’t reasonably demand the former and deny anyone the latter.
So, if it is European women, you must make sure it is not “overrated”, and you will be suspicious of that.
It it were immigrant women, you would WANT to boost it and make sure it is not underrated.
Liberals justify this lack of objectivity by mentioning the inequalities or vulnerable position in which a minority may find itself. The mistake here is the all-too-common idea that one injustice is the best way to counteract an earlier one.
One cannot bring justice by being unjust. I know this is not the case with you and many well-intentioned,naive guilty first-worlders, but this is how the Allies justified indiscriminate destruction of European cities and killing civilians from all countries like they were ants, this is how they justified instituting torture centers for German soldiers after WW2 (one of the worst was in Poland, who were historical enemies with the Germans, not precisely victims, and then of course, the infamous British torture centers where they butchered thousands of soldiers after the end of the war).
Are you referring to the so-called London Cage? Any recommended reading regarding that place and time?
To give you a better list, and specific references would take some time, and this is not the place to do it, but here you go:
1. Other Losses: An Investigation Into the Mass Deaths of German Prisoners at the Hands of the French and Americans After World War II
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4178465-other-losses?ac=1&from_search=true
2. After the Reich: The Brutal History of the Allied Occupation
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/852167.After_the_Reich
3. Hellstorm: The Death Of Nazi Germany, 1944-1947
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10508578-hellstorm?ac=1&from_search=true
Additional and relevant:
Black Propaganda: In the Second World War
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3465873-black-propaganda?ac=1&from_search=true
Vae victis!
Hitler’s failure.
Hence the only honorable way out was suicide.
Fuck your double standards, American imbeciles! retarded puppets is all you are
The soldiers of the United States were told that they were entering
Germany not as liberators but as conquerors. The task of the
occupation forces was conceived of as entirely negative. It was to
demilitarize, denazify, decentralize, and deindustrialize the defeated
enemy country. Nothing was to be done to make the Germans believe
that the victory of the democracies offered freedom, hope, or
justice. Instead, we proceeded to teach the Germans that their dead
Fuhrer had been right in saying that if Germany failed to conquer
she would be destroyed. “Woe to the vanquished” was our motto
as it had been Hitler’s.
Freda Ultley The High Cost of Vengeance
Thanks.
I see that Metal-Archives regulars are still dumb as a rock. Exhibit A
Empyreal is the biggest faggot I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen gay porn. Check out this href=https://plus.google.com/photos/107829759362075660451/albums/profile/5871253916422644882> kid acting so tough.
I see that Metal-Archives regulars are still dumb as a rock. Exhibit A
Empyreal is the biggest faggot I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen gay porn. Check out this kid acting so tough.
Ancient Mariner holdin’ it down on the real.
I’m amazed that someone as stupid as Morrigan can maintain a site with as much content and so many users.