Antifascist terrorists attacked the police protecting the Messe des Morts festival in Montreal on Saturday in response to Graveland, Mgła, and Forteresse playing, who the terrorist all accuse of being Neo-Nazis who wanted to violate Montreal’s safe space. The leftist terrorists purchased tickets to the sold out festival on the second-hand market, infiltrated the crowd wearing ski masks, and threw smoke grenades at the entrances. The antifa terrorists attacked the police who were supposed to be protecting the venue, artists, and concertgoers from their planned protest. One of the “protesters” turned terrorists was Alexandre Boulerice, federal MP for the New Democratic Party in the Rosemont-La-Petite-Patrie riding. The police ended up shutting down the festival for “safety reasons”.
The Communists are quick to use violence to enforce their delusions of socialist realism upon metal music and other art. They will stop nothing short of bashing heads and shooting hollow-point bullets in the backs of the skulls of anyone they dislike or suspect of holding opinions heretodox to their red, ersatz bibles. Since the terrorist committed their crimes in the social justice warrior and delusional multiculturalist Justin Trudeau’s Canada, Death Metal Underground suspects that they will go relatively unpunished rather than face the customary sentences of death or twenty years to life that most states give terrorists attempting to violently suppress anyone critical of their little book of nonsense.
The pictures and reactions speak for themselves:
One of the Communist terrorists was recidivist and apparent anti-Semite Katie Nelson, who had previously assaulted internet personality Roosh V:
Nelson received a well-deserved beating from the police she attacked while being subdued. Hopefully her sentence will be more severe, prevent her from committing such acts of violent terrorism in the future.
The organizers released a statement on their Facebook page about what happened:
Plus de détails sur l’annulation d’hier / More details on yesterday’s cancellation
Nous ferons une annonce plus détaillée d’ici une journée ou deux, étant donné que nous devons encore nous occuper de plusieurs détails relatifs au transport des groupes et à d’autres éléments habituels lors de la fin du festival, mais pour le moment nous voulons vous donner plus de détails sur l’annulation d’hier.
Vers 17 h hier soir, alors que l’organisation se préparait à ouvrir les portes, des manifestants « antifascistes » ont chargé les policiers qui entouraient du Plaza et ont réussi à s’en approcher assez pour lancer des bombes fumigènes dans le corridor d’entrée et asperger les agents de sécurité du Théâtre de poivre de cayenne. La police a ensuite repoussé les manifestants et établi un cordon de sécurité, en empêchant également les participants au festival de s’approcher de l’entrée pour leur sécurité.
Des membres de l’organisation « antifasciste » en ont profité pour se mêler discrètement aux participants au festival, et ils n’attendaient probablement que l’ouverture des portes pour asperger les participants de poivre de cayenne ou même utiliser des matraques sur ceux-ci. D’autres attendaient également ce moment pour lancer des appels à la bombe. Nous étions également au courant que des membres de cette organisation avaient pu assister au spectacle de vendredi afin de faire du repérage, en s’étant procuré des billets auprès de gens les ayant revendus à la dernière minute, et que si certains avaient pu déjouer la fouille, ils avaient peut-être dissimulé du matériel destiné à être utilisé hier par d’autres membres ayant des billets pour le spectacle d’hier. Et les « antifascistes » qui avaient des billets pour le spectacle avaient probablement tous sur eux du poivre de cayenne prêt à être utilisé sur le public ou les groupes. Certains contenants de poivre de cayenne sont très faciles à dissimuler, même lors d’une fouille complète, et il y avait donc un risque réel que certains d’entre eux réussissent à pénétrer dans l’enceinte du Plaza malgré la fouille qui devait être faite par les agents de sécurité.
Dans ces circonstances, nous avons été forcés d’annuler la soirée, étant donné que le risque pour la santé et la sécurité des participants était trop élevés. Encore une fois, nous sommes désolés de la tournure des événements, mais nous croyons que c’était la chose à faire. Pour ceux d’entre vous qui sont dégoûtés de la situation, et nous savons que vous êtes nombreux, nous vous invitons à contacter les médias afin qu’ils puissent aussi entendre la version des participants au festival.
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We will do a more detailed announcement in a day or two, since we still have many details related to the groups’ transportation and other usual end of festival matters, but for now we wanted to give you more details on yesterday’s cancellation.
At around 5 PM yesterday, while the organization was preparing to open the doors, “antifascist” protesters charged the policemen surrounding the Plaza, and were able to get close by to the venue enough to throw smoke bombs in the entrance corridor and use pepper spray on the Théâtre security agents. The police then pushed them back and established a security perimeter, while preventing fest attendees from approaching the venue for their security.
Some members of the “antifascist” organization used this to infiltrate the attendees’ lineup, and they were likely just waiting for the opening of the doors to use pepper spray on attendees, possibly even beating some of them with batons. Other were also waiting for that moment to make bomb threats. We also knew that members of that organization were able to attend the Friday show, by buying tickets from people re-selling them at the last minute, and that if some of them were able to get past the door search, they might have hidden items to be used by other members with tickets to yesterday’s show. These same “antifascists” with tickets for the show probably all had pepper spray on themselves ready to use on the crowd or bands. Some pepper spray containers are very easy to hide, even for a full search, and thus there was a definite risk that some of them would be able to enter the Plaza despite the search done by the security agents.
Under these circumstances, we were force to cancel the evening, because risks to the health and safety of the attendees were too great. Once again, we are sorry for the turn of events, but we believe that was the thing to do. For those of you who are disgusted by this situation, and we know there are many of you, we invite you to contact the media so they can also hear your side of the story.
IMPORTANT – À PARTAGER / SHARE IT
Pour ceux qui nous ont demandé qui contacter pour faire part de leur indignation par rapport à l’annulation d’hier / For all those who asked us who they should contact to express their outrage about yesterday’s cancellationPour ceux d’entre vous qui voulaient partager leur indignation avec les médias, ou qui ont été victimes de violence hier soir et durant la nuit et qui veulent en faire part, nous vous avons préparé une liste de contact. Il est important que vous vous fassiez entendre afin que des circonstances du genre ne se reproduisent plus jamais, donc écrivez à tous ces contacts si vous avez le temps, et faites-leur part de votre mécontentement, MAIS DE FAÇON CIVILISÉE. Nous en appelons tout particulièrement aux gens qui se sont déplacés de loin pour assister au festival et se sont fait gâcher leur voyage, et aussi à ceux qui ont été victimes de violence, étant donné que les médias ne semble pas avoir montré cet autre côté de la médaille…
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For those who want to share their outrage with the media, or that were the victims of violence yesterday evening and during the night, we have prepared a contact list. It is important that you make yourselves heard to make sure such circumstances never happen again, so write to them all if you have the time and tell them how angry you are about this, BUT IN A CIVILIZED MANNER. We appeal in particularly to those who traveled a long way to see the fest and had their travel spoiled, as well as those who were the victims of violent acts, since the media does not seem to have covered that other side of the coin. Some of these media are French obviously, but they can receive English messages and will be able to understand them.
DÉPUTÉS/DEPUTEES
Voici les contacts des députes fédéral et provincial de la circonscription et du maire d’arrondissement où se trouve le Théâtre Plaza et où a eu lieu la manifestation / Here are the contacts of the federal and provincial deputees of the riding, as well as from the borough mayor where the Plaza is located at and the protest was held– Fédéral (Rosemont-Petite Patrie) – Alexandre-Boulerice – http://www.boulerice.org/contact
– Provincial (Rosemont) – Jean-François Lisée Jean-Francois.Lisee.ROSE@assnat.qc.ca
– Municipal (Rosemont) – francois.croteau@ville.montreal.qc.caJOURNALISTES / REPORTERS
Contacts de journalistes nous ayant contactés directement par rapport à l’événement / Contacts of reporters who have contacted us directly about the even– Louis-Philippe Ouimet (Radio-Canada) – louis-philippe.ouimet@radio-canada.ca
– Marie-Claude Simard – AQMI-Nouvelle – nouvelles@agenceqmi.ca
– Catherine Solyom (Montreal Gazette) – csolyom@montrealgazette.com
– Dan Gravel (Radio X) – dangravel@radiox.comCONTACTS MÉDIAS / MEDIA CONTACTS
Voici comment contacter certains journaux et postes de télévision ayant couvert l’événement / Here’s how you can contact some newspapers and television channels that covered the event– Canadian Broadcasting Corporation – liaison@cbc.ca
– La Presse- http://www.lapresse.ca/con…/quotidien/contact-lapresseca.php
– Le Devoir- redaction@ledevoir.com
– Le Journal de Montréal – jdm.transmission@quebecormedia.com
– Montreal Gazette – Editor Lucinda Chodan – lchodan@postmedia.com
– Newsroom Administrator – June Thompson – jthompson@postmedia.com
Tags: alexandre boulerice, antifa, antifascist, Black Metal, canada, censorship, communists, festivals, Forteresse, graveland, katie nelson, messe des morts, metalgate, Mgła
Satan is pale and safe. Hitler is Trump and dangerous.
Come on Trump named Bannon (worked for Goldman Sachs, bough shares in the Seinfeld show), and Mnuchin (ex-goldman too, worked with Soros and then on stupid hollywood super-heroes franchises)… he’ll play that alt-right card as much as he can, but those multi-millionnaires and billionnaires don’t give a shit about what their grass-root supporters want for real.
I’ve always liked to hail both Satan and Hitler. But yeah. Satan hasn’t been dangerous in over 20 years. Supporting Trump on the other hand can be quite dangerous in certain parts as we all know.
weird, how satanic metal might get a Christian like me to get active.
THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling
http://www.europeanamericansunited.org/school1/Fiction/kipling/awakened.htm
Did that fucking autist in that one image seriously call SOD NSBM? Also isn’t Scott Ian Jewish anyway?
The autism of these antifa idiots is too strong
These are the same type of retards that believe Islam, homosexuality and feminism can coexist. They are not gonna spew forth any sort of intelligence.
Fuck anti-fa scum. You cunts post pictures of Muslims holding their dead children with the tag THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE TERRORISTS. Go shut down some more concerts, THAT’S HOW YOU MAKE NAZIS.
fuckin A !
what liberal idiots don’t understand is, while they are indoctrinating children/teens at school, a large portion just don’t care.
After school, the students will fuck around and do stupid shit, play some ball or hockey, maybe drink or do drugs, call each other faggots, make racist jokes, etc., but if anybody that tries to change or take away even one bit of their freedom?;
they will start to figure out that books like 1984 and Animal farm explain what is happening NOW.
Elliot Allderson = top troll
Richard Spencer should learn from antifa: the most successful form of fascism still alive today that all warfare is based on deception. They have actually convinced everyone they are anti-fascist when actually they are the most fascist people in Europe.
JFTR: One of the newspaper stories contains the claim that the SPLC had identified Graveland as hate group in 1999. According to a search of their web site, this isn’t true: Graveland appears only in a 1999 »Intelligence Report« titled Black Metal Spreads Neo-Nazi Hate Message:
[…] the racist Polish band Graveland, whose first album is “Heeding the Call of the Blood.” Graveland is composed of a typical black metal enthusiast, corpse paint and all, and a Skinhead.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/1999/black-metal-spreads-neo-nazi-hate-message
Another quote from the same text:
Vikernes is in prison there for beheading his best friend. He endorses fascism, child sacrifice and torture.
One of authors works for an organization with the euphonic name »Northwest Coalition Against Malicious Harassment«. The text stops short of satanic backmasking, presumably because this already didn’t work the last time.
Hahahaha, Vikernes endorses child sacrifice and torture.
Who are these entertaining fools? I want to read more of their work.
They are, apparently, the same people who classified Pepe the sad frog as a hate symbol, on par wtih the nazi swastika.
What a great use of tax funds.
SPLC is not supported by tax dollars, but through fundraising.
Oh, okay.
Then why does any one take them seriously?
America is still going through its phase that is similar to Germany’s antinazification. Anything bad said against black people is volatile because… some reason or another.
> rad tunes
Yeah, this guy has never listened to black metal
Black metal would be a much healthier scene if we went back to killing people. Maybe bombing or burning down some place they gather.
ha ha ha ha ha…..
I bet you’re one of those faggots role playing as satanic terrorist warlords straight from their basements somewhere in one of those irreligious, atheist, hipster, faggotry ridden countries that house the so called kvlt scene, which is nothing more than more teenagers, manchildren and alcoholic larpers whining over religion from atheist environments that won’t do anything to them for being so “brave” but showering them in applause, and whose worries don’t go beyond “what sweater should I wear today” when they are not drunk or don’t have their faces painted as mimes.
Sick of their censorship, facists in themselves.
“No nazis on our streets!”
Anti-fa
Ha-ha-ha
I applaud the organizers of the concert for not succumbing, but as I told the organizer they should have seen this coming and planned accordingly (secret unnanouced venue etc). There was a small crowd of pretty angry metalheads yelling back, ‘better dead than red, you commie scum’. However, there was no way aroynd the cops. I did see a small group of guys later calling antifa out to face them after the cops left.
In an ideal universe, the members of both of these groups would be invited to give each other a good hiding in some ‘safe space’ where they wouldn’t accidentallly get into the way of anyone who doesn’t care for their petty disputes. Maybe call that a ‘venue’, too, and sell tickets for it.
Antifa don’t exactly fight with honour and dignity they like to jump people, throw smoke grenades, sneak attacks,etc. They cower when the numbers are even.
Antifa don’t exactly fight with honour and dignity they like to jump people, throw smoke grenades and do sneak attacks. They cower when the numbers are even.
Morbiddeathscream.. Well said but thats in the few cases when they actually do that stuff. Most time they just cause petty attempts at duress in public with police in which it just gets the venue shut down “rarely”. I Think 99% these starbuck coffee drinking lefty terrorist with there safe spaces wouldnt dare do this stuff head on with a group of just normal people who support good music and creativity. Oh but i guess we are all nazi homophobes.. Oh btw im a lesbian.so antifa can go fuck themselves. Now if that katie bitch ever got the guts to put her hands on me id knock her fucking teeth down her her throat. I am afterall a amatuer boxer.. But alas i live in america….lol
Notice that these antifa attacks don’t happen in the US? Perhaps they are afraid of actual retaliation? Or are they just unable to organize? Would be interesting to find out…
Apparently antifa were nowhere to be found at hells headbash and Grand Belial’s Key played without a problem. I wasn’t there, but I’m going by what I’ve been told. Liberals bitched online about Demonic Christ playing MDF, they played nothing happened I wish I saw there set instead of watching Samael butcher ceremony of opposites at the Edison lot.
“One of the Communist terrorists was recidivist and apparent anti-Semite Katie Nelson, who had previously assaulted internet personality Roosh V”
Not bad… for a commie
Well then… all the outraged metalheads are doing is bitching about it on social media. Even Antifa are more virile and take action which influences actual outcomes. No wonder metal sucks these days.
Well, all the outraged metal nerds can bitch and moan and listen to Graveland in their rooms and fantasize about “blood of antifa on my sword”. Actually the proper term would be “semen of antifa in my ass”.
Go on then Montreal metalheads. Do something. Because otherwise even the local antifa “terrorists” are cuckolding you.
Go on then Montreal metalheads. Do something. Because otherwise even the local antifa “terrorists” are cuckolding you.
There are two possible outcomes of this per individual: 1. Runs away early enough. 2. Ends up in policy custody, possibly injured.
There use to be a third, namely, massacre by police armed and trained for civil war (eg, Vienna ‘revolt’) but that was before the times of “street fighting men” of this nowadays popular caliber.
Misanthrope: Quebec is a self-avowedly Socialist “nation”. Antifa and their ilk operate under the auspices and full protection of the government. In case you missed it, one of them was a member of the Legislature, and there was a full line of cops present, not to stop antifa from attacking (which they do with impunity) but to prevent metalheads and others from trying to defend themselves (and who would promptly be sent to prison for hate crimes if they tried- after the cops beat the shit out of/shot them that is).
“full protection of the government”; you mean the police that were defending the venue?
Sounds about right.
I’m not convinced that the word fascism has any coherent definition outside of “people I hate.” Exceptions are exceedingly rare..
You are generally right, but fascist economics are their own thing.
Western terrorism is so lame. We would have blown the whole place up and machined gunned the survivors, Allah permitting. Infidel pussies.
Well it is the local antifa so one cannot expect too much. But they show some promise with their use of smoke grenades and organizational skills. Perhaps they will be a pool from which we can recruit many glorious martyrs. The metalhead infidels are too much of cuckolds to be bothered with.
Muslims are too busy killing each other over thousand year grudges between tribes, maintaining a Bronze Age mentality and getting used by your modern day corrupt governments, lol.
During rituals you’re also advised to cut at your skin using razor-blade or knife and let the blood on strips of paper or parchement putting them in a consecrated fire. Opfer it to the God you’re calling forth. A very good practice regarding the goal is to choose the animal you truly like and take one for sacrifice toward the God of your Choice. Spread the area with its blood, fill the chalice and ask the Demon or God you’re calling to fill it with its acausal attributes. At the end of the ritual drink it and let it sicken your body, corrupting your soul. For females, the best and at the same time the most horrible in regards of humanity is to sacrifice her own child, just after the delivery of the newbirth using strangulation (with the ombilical link) and dedicate the sacrifice to Ama Lilith under the blank sky of a new moon. It is sensed to catapult the practionner in the deep arcanes of Inferno and in one instant destroy every humanity in her. This kind of sacrifice instantaneously call forth the most evil forces and beings. Its not only the sacrifice of an innocent child, its also the spiritual death of the sorceress. A valid option is to find someone who desire to abort and slaughter the living foetus after the operation.
That’s some dumb shit, mate.
I see you have entered in denial. I suppose you share these liberal punks’ ideas about Satanism as an edgy form of hippie religion or as a political statement. Your refusal to accept reality does not change or have any effect over it.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true Satanism. I am saying that Satanism is dumb as fuck.
I think it is you who is in denial.
Calling it dumb won’t wish it away either. That is my point too ;)
what’s the goal of spiritual death?
Transcendence of the self, alchemical change.
But it seriously risks pure psychosis and permanent mental impairment.
Which is why it is a good filter..
Glad someone is shutting these Satanists down – laughing at these crabs in a bucket
I traveled there from another province and had a great time on the first two nights. This was my third straight Messe des Morts. Along with Mgla and Cult of Fire on the Friday the other band I really wanted to see was Aosoth on Saturday.
Obviously, that didn’t happen. Basically the police stood in force to block the concert attendees from approaching the venue. I arrived at around 530 when the night was due to start. After standing in line for over an hour I went across the street to look. I decided to approach the police line to see what would happen. As I expected, when I got to within a few paces I was asked to stop. I had an impression that refusal would result in my arrest.
I wonder why, if as alleged the protesters attacked security guards with pepper spray, they were not arrested given the amount of police on the scene? It is alleged that the police cleared the protesters out after the concert was cancelled. I wonder why wait?
I did witness the police act very quickly to push the crowd down the street after some people started yelling at the Antifa protesters. I believe if they use violence to enforce their ideological viewpoints then the term “terrorist” can be applied to any individuals that do this.
I also believe that such protests require a permit. Given the known history of Antifa and expectation of violence, if this is true then why was such a permit issued?
I have questions about the roles of provincial government and police in this. I am now aware of Antifa and I see them as a terrorist organization hiding behind the guise of “anti-fascism” while adopting a style that can be found in defining fascism.
How is trying to violently oppose people of differing ideology all that different from nationalism in the sense of “get out of my city”?
I purchased a ticket for a legal event that was prevented by use of violence. Does this show respect for my human right to choose to attend?
Identifying anybody who wanted to attend a night featuring seven bands as a “nazi” is used to create enemies to unify their cause.
Disdain for arts was clearly expressed. Opposition to their views were met with violent assault.
In closing, I had never heard of Graveland when they announced it. I wasn’t all that interested in them. That night was about Aosoth for me. Some violent terrorists decided to prevent that.
Now they are using pepper spray and smoke bombs. where does it escalate to if it is allowed to continue?
GRAVELAND fucking rule. Listen to them post-haste!
>I believe if they use violence to enforce their ideological viewpoints then the term “terrorist” can be applied to any individuals that do this
So every conqueror, defender, or hero who used violence was a terrorist. Clever.
Attendees of such future events should be prepared to fight to back, it is time black metal enthusiasts start backing up their talk of war, hatred and violence.
I agree! We need to organize and show up first.
Anti-antifa.
I like the sound of this and would show up to the Swedish anti-antifa wing.
FOR FREE EXPRESSION
FOR OCCIDENTAL CULTURE
FOR GREAT JUSTICE
FOR METAL, MY BROTHERS
CHAAAAAAAAAAAARGE
I’m drunk.
I was told that this is soda, but this is no mere soda.
“HAIL SATAN NOT HEIL HITLER”?!
LOL that is priceless! These children demand a nice welcoming personification of pure evil in which everyone can participate, but not actual evil. Fucking trendsters, fake beer-metallers weekending in black metal.
That being said, Daniel Maarat, your repeated use of TERRORIST to describe these clowns is at once too generous to them and too victimising of the other side, and appears as pandering propaganda that we’re not stupid enough to get worked up about. Granted, I didn’t read the details of the article; what was their violence? Letting off colourful smoke? Trying to punch a cop? Starting fistfights with Hessians? Being a dickhead shouldn’t qualify one as a TERRORIST.
Still, I’m impressed by their commitment… So used to reading Hessians on DMU proclaiming all the sodomy and crushing of the weak that they do. Maybe they’re too lone-wolf to ever organise a ‘terrorist’ attack like these Antifa niggas have the balls to.
Precisely my thoughts. Each true Hessian should carry his own weapon, perhaps a concealed scimitar or long sword, and stop victimizing themselves. Fight fire with fire; this red terror has been present before and they scare easily when face with an actual martial spirit. Khalifah Amir ibn Hitler, sallah Allah ealayh, knew this and took swift action against these kaffirs.
You show great wisdom my brother. Sadly, Khalifah Amir ibn Hitler was the last great Caliph they had. Since then, they have grown soft. Many of out great martyrs have gone to show them true terror and valour, but it is lost on these kaffir weaklings. When even the local antifa show greater resolve and action, then we should recruit from among the antifa kaffir.
A muslim speaking out against censorship and vengeful mob rule.
How cute.
I do not speak against it, you infidel ignoramus.
I encourage Western kaffirs to slaughter each other for real.
Next time, don’t hesitate to remind them that if they want to deal in “terror”, that it will follow them back home. The police obviously won’t do anything. (((They))) tacitly support and agree with antifa.
Hurriyya!
Wallahi brother! These kaffir idiots are confused! They talk about war and terror and changing society, but then they expect the same society to be civilized and the police to protect their interests. Their minds are weak and their resolve is non-existent! You cannot help such kaffir.
Jazakallah khair brother!
They want to censor and enslave for feminism, you want to do it for a jewish god.
You are no better. Fuck a goat kill yourself.
Scimitar? Long sword? Too good for a Taurus G-2 or something?
Get on my level and get a ceramic knife. No license required and it doesn’t trip metal detectors.
Beaded Obsidian, you silly goose! Those Injun savages were creating stealth weapons in the good ol’ days without even knowing it!
Anyhow, I’ve heard of people getting fucked with ceramic knives because they forget that sometimes there is metal in the handle. Though, if your taking a weapon in any place with a metal detector, hopefully your using magnets to check that shit over and over just to be 100% certain.
And yes, talking about NON-METAL blades on a metal websites does make me chuckle.
METAL BLADE is a shit label anyway!
The holocaust was self-defense.
The holocaust was a hoax to instill infinite white guilt.
About that TERRORIST chick mentioned above:
“The following is a partial list of offenses with which Nelson has been charged: participating in illegal demonstrations, obstructing vehicular traffic, jaywalking, swearing, spitting on the ground, flicking cigarette ashes and “emitting a noise” in public.
SO VIOLENT! lol. Both sides are being pussies.
These antifa faggots rarely if ever get arrested so they basically have free reign. At least here in Europe. It doesnt surprise me in the slightest that her criminal record seems so fucking minor. There is absolutely NO DOUBT that antifa is a terrorist organisation because they use violence to silence political opponents.
Antifa serve as useful idiots for the new world order agenda that is why you never see them get arrested. They claim they fight the system but in reality they are reinforcing it, it’s what the Zionist elite want, that’s why they’ve been given free reign. I guarantee if any of the concert goers were to even put a hand on any of those faggots they would be arrested in a heartbeat. Imagine if a crew of neo Nazi’s did the same thing antifa did, they would be serving prison sentences.
Antifa are agents of the lizard people.
(((Lizards)))
I heard someone got arrested in France for speaking negatively about antifa. They also got away with burning down a black metal venue in Germany. They bragged about it too, no arrests that I know of. That should tell you right there. Shit, George Soros probably funds antifa, wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVRUhwPa1So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLcMf9eOS7k
These leftists recognize metal for what it is: music of fascist (anarcho-conservative) males.
So start learning to fight and shoot instead of whining.
In the USSR of the 80-ies, metalheads sometimes used their riveted belts as weapons of self-defence. Allegedly, such belts tear skin effectively and cause spectacular bleeding.
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FAQ
“Isn’t protesting racist events actually just fascism?”
No. Fascism is when a totalitarian party seizes control of the state, deliberalizes its institutions, abandons the rule of law, and institutes state-corporatism. This, on the other hand, was something else: it was what we call a ‘demonstration’.
“Isn’t disrupting racist events actually just censorship?”
No. Censorship requires a censor, which requires the state to be involved. You will notice that the police – the representatives of the state in this instance — were there to protect the venue, the band, and the concertgoers. The protestors were not participating in a ‘censorship’; they were participating in a direct action aimed at disrupting a racist event.
“But what about freedom of speech?!”
I’m free to say whatever I want. You’re free to stand outside my show with your friends and call me a fucking racist. Isn’t that cool?
“But I’m not a racist!”
Glad to hear it! You gave your money to a racist band though, which sucks a lot, and you should definitely avoid doing that in the future.
“But I’m apolitical!”
No you’re not. Everything is political. You don’t get to just turn off political consciousness when it’s inconvenient.
“But Graveland isn’t racist!”
Really? When white supremacist Hendrik Möbus from Absurd was arrested for the murder of his classmate for being a ‘race defiler’, Darken promptly released Absurd’s album ‘Thuringian Pagan Madness’ in response. Graveland has released music on Vinland Winds Records, which was an openly ‘National Socialist’ label. Darken likes to talk about how the left loves to unfairly ‘censor’ him for his ‘beliefs’, unfairly calling him a racist – when there are long interview transcripts you can go look up, full of him saying racist shit. They were dropped from Lethal for making racist statements, and then immediately started their own label (cool) and re-released Thousand Swords with a tirade in the booklet accusing Lethal of being part of a ‘Jewish business conspiracy’ (not cool). Darken told Decibel magazine that “most people would call [my convictions] extreme right-wing National Socialist convictions” (source below). His main reason for not openly calling himself a Nazi is that the Nazis lost: “I do not see any point in referring to NS because I do not see any point in referring to any ideologies that lost.” But let’s not forget that the thing that sucks about Nazis isn’t shaved heads or the name ‘Nazi’ but the fact that they’re racist and promote social and ethnic cleansing. In an interview with Pit Magazine, Darken said: “[In the US] you have many sub-men who destroy your country and a Jew is your president! You must destroy them all!” and “The Jews’ musical machine wants to absorb black metal” and “If you want to be poweful, you have to destroy all weak, humanitarian people”, and “Kill hippies, drug addicts and other weak sub-men! White race must be strong!” Graveland also recently played a neo-Nazi festival called Hot Shower, which indicates that regardless of statements made by Darken trying to distance himself from racism, he is clearly not willing to literally distance himself from racism. There’s a lot more shit like this. Google it.
DECIBEL: http://web.archive.org/web/20080208184453/http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/may2006/nsbm.aspx
PIT: http://imgur.com/a/18w4X
“You just don’t understand black metal!”
A lot of the demonstrators were there because they LOVE black metal, but hate racists.
“I want my 50 bucks back!”
So get it back from the racist assholes you gave it to. Racist music will always have backlash in Montreal. That’s how this city works, and we’re proud of it.
“But I’m apolitical!”
No you’re not. Everything is political.
Rest assured, I am. I don’t care about your political opinion. I don’t care about Rob Darken’s political opinion, either. I might care if either you or Rob Darken formed a political party in some country I happened to be living in as that could conceivably affect me. That’s Not Now[tm], hence, as far as I’m concerned, both of you are free to blather to your hearts content whenever you find someone willing to listen to that.
I might also care if you end up effecting cancellation of an event I paid for. If the event is legal, you have no business interfering with it, no matter how pressing the urge might be. If that’s supposed to be politcal, work on getting it outlawed in the proper, political way, then come back.
As a black metal fan AND a racist, I find your internet “journalism” and phony dialectic silly business, no mistake. Graveland is awesome. If you aren’t racist, you should still support them because they make excellent music that deserves to be held in high regard. I’ve supported plenty of liberal bands that make high quality music and it didn’t cause me any grief of conscience.
Anti-fa is nothing but mob showmanship. They could give a fuck about fascism or music as far as I can tell. Congrats on being organized and having smoke grenades, but otherwise, just start a goddamn left-wing militia and be done with it. Graveland can’t ACTUALLY be what you give a shit about.
‘Do as we wish or face violent reprisal’…would have saved a lot of time. The moment Antifa introduced violence and threat of violence to get the show cancelled, they crossed the line. They did do with police protection, ironically, because I doubt the protesters would have had any chance to stop the amount of people waiting to get in if the cops weren’t blocking the way and the doors were open.
Use of pepper spray is weak. Swarming people because you don’t like their shirt is weak. Attacking a hotel and pulling a fire alarm because of your ideological difference with one person, affecting many others, is weak.
How all the “anti-fascist” protesters weren’t arrested on the spot smells of complicity.
By the way, “anti-fascist”, your own definition of fascism doesn’t extend a concert in a legal venue either.
All your violence is going to bring is counter violence. Enjoy the war in the streets your “proud” actions will provoke.
“No. Censorship requires a censor, which requires the state to be involved.”
Sure, and Africans can’t be racist because “racism describes structures of power”.
The bands were going to play. They were intentionally stopped, and thus not able to play.
That means that their art was successfully censored.
It was censorship. Get over it and fuck a goat.
“The protestors were not participating in a ‘censorship’; they were participating in a direct action aimed at disrupting a racist event.”
In other words: “We weren’t trying to commit censorship: We were trying to prevent them from expressing themselves”
You are a joke.
No no no dude. Can I assume that Canadia’s free-speech laws work similarly to USA’s?
Maybe I shouldn’t. But I will here>>>
USA’s 1st Amendment protects free speech i.e. doesn’t allow the GOVERNMENT to CENSOR speech. The 1st Amendment doesn’t prevent niggas from protesting a concert. In fact, that itself would violate free speech.
I’m seeing this shit in article after article on DMU — indignantly victimising yourself because ‘SJWs’ are protesting ya.
So?
Private people can censor, too. A parent can censor for his child.
He claimed that the antifa were not trying to censor, but that they were trying to disrupt an event.
He literally stated that they did not want to silence any one, they just wanted to silence them.
Showing up and protesting is acceptable.
Silencing those who you are protesting against isn’t.
So exactly how much is George Soros paying you? Shit, he even hooked you all up with smoke grenades.
You faggots only have balls when you have your political opponents outnumbered or when hiding behind the cops you pretend to hate. Must be nice to have protection from your socialist government. I heard a small group of metalheads called you fags out after the cops left and you all didn’t do shit. Run out of smoke grenades?
How does Katie Nelson’s pussy taste BTW? Was it followed by a massive outbreak of cold sores a couple days after?
As much as I agree with each of your points, actually turning to violent threats to prevent the show (if that’s realy what happened) could only make you pass for jerks, and it doesn’t help your political views to spread.
Problem with “antifas” is that they stop right where interesting things begin : why is the far-right on the rise ? all those I know can only answer that “yea white working class is coopted by the ruling class, they’re hopeless”, no, it’s pretty much all the official left which is just pursuing the same policies as the right making far-right nutcases look like a serious solution.
When will you (or do you, since I don’t know you personnaly) apply the same degree of criticizm to the fake left artists who catter to left governement parties, who catter to the Parti Quebecois, etc. and try to disrupt their concerts (I still think that’s less effective than actually talking with people about the real political issues and how to solve them in a non-fascist way, but at least you would bring a bit of coherence in your action) ? After all they’re just legitimising politicians who then sends Canadian soldiers abroad and keep on a right-wing agenda.
“No. Fascism is when a totalitarian party seizes control of the state, deliberalizes its institutions, abandons the rule of law, and institutes state-corporatism. This, on the other hand, was something else: it was what we call a ‘demonstration’. ”
This is a decent definition, but not the best definition. Fascism is a type of political absolutism: a police state that is created to solve the problems caused by a society plagued by moral/cultural relativism.
The words of the arch-fascist himself.
““If relativism signifies contempt for fixed categories and those who claim to be the bearers of objective immortal truth, then there is nothing more relativistic than Fascist attitudes and activity. From the fact that all ideologies are of equal value, we Fascists conclude that we have the right to create our own ideology and to enforce it with all the energy of which we are capable.” -Benito Mussolini
By this understanding of fascism, antifa IS a fascist organization because a)the idealogy of antifa is based in cultural relativism b)if this organization were to control the political system they would impose a political absolutism by effectively eliminating freedom of speech and c)this organization only succeeds in accomplishing its goals because a police state allows them to protest despite their obvious track record of violence. Just because antifa are not white nationalists doesn’t mean they are not fascists.
“No. Censorship requires a censor, which requires the state to be involved. You will notice that the police – the representatives of the state in this instance — were there to protect the venue, the band, and the concertgoers. The protestors were not participating in a ‘censorship’; they were participating in a direct action aimed at disrupting a racist event.”
Wrong. Censorship is the use of violence to discourage a person from speaking their mind. Whether this is done by the state or by non-state actors is irrelevant. What you antifa call “disrupting” is just an euphemism for violence. There is plenty of video evidence for this.
“I’m free to say whatever I want. You’re free to stand outside my show with your friends and call me a fucking racist. Isn’t that cool?”
What a bunch of crap. Antifa do not just stand outside a show and call people racist. They vandalize property, start fights, start fires, etc. This people are VICIOUS.
“Glad to hear it! You gave your money to a racist band though, which sucks a lot, and you should definitely avoid doing that in the future. ”
Even if music has a bad idealogy on top of it there is still a non-ideological part of the music in the form of melody, rhythm, sound texture, etc that can have virtue. Just because you support a band does not mean you endorse every single thing a band does. Like it or not, Nazis sometimes play great music whether you like what they have to say or not. Anyone who thinks the virtue of music is to be reduced to the musician’s idealogy views is both full of crap and hypocritical (NOBODY actually acts like that in a consistent manner)
“No you’re not. Everything is political. You don’t get to just turn off political consciousness when it’s inconvenient.”
What does “political” even mean here? I guess Antifa’s concept of “political” is having some conceivable effect on society even if that effect has nothing to do with influencing the state.
“A lot of the demonstrators were there because they LOVE black metal, but hate racists.”
So what? A rational consumer of the arts is able to separate the virtue of a person’s music from the virtue of what a person’s ideological views are.
“So get it back from the racist assholes you gave it to. Racist music will always have backlash in Montreal. That’s how this city works, and we’re proud of it”
So if I like Graveland only for their music you all of a sudden have a right to steal from me? What if I like Starbucks for their coffee. Does that mean a conservative now has the right to steal from me because the corp heads of Starbucks are leftists?
I am with you, you sensitive souls of the westerner racist. Let me hold your hand and cry with you because you were bullied.
As lesbians, we know what it means .to be called “sick,”
“deviant,” “unnatural.” Books and articles have been written
about how social control works – how labeling independent
women “crazy” keeps the majority of women in line. Separated,
isolated, paid less, little or nothing for our work in and out of the
home, threatened with rape, incest, ostracization; trivialized,
slighted, ridiculed; romanticized, idealized, sentimentalized –
we get stuck between cycles of outrage and fear of brutalization.
We don’t like to get fucked in the ass either, we get you.
You don’t understand, and you never can, with your victim mentality.
You are projecting your own victim mentality on to others.
This isn’t about being oppressed or being a victim. This is about facilitating the transcendent glory of metal by defending institutions that spread it to as many willing people as possible (concert venues), and laws that allow for it to be spread to as many willing people as possible (free artistic expression).
One thing that people like you often fail to understand, is that no things are binary, no things are utterly black or white.
Varg Vikernes of Burzum has some crazy ideas that many don’t believe in, but his music still describes and expresses things that are appealing.
Likewise, if an African band was inspired by their land and its history, and wanted to take back the land for the native races, to destroy the foreign Christianity in favour of vodou, and to prevent inbreeding to preserve the African races, then I would listen to them anyway if I liked their music.
I’d even listen to them if they considered people like me inferior.
Megadeth comes from a Christian mind, and Slayer’s vocalist is a Christian. The music is still good and should still be honoured.
“Megadeth comes from a Christian mind, and Slayer’s vocalist is a Christian. The music is still good and should still be honoured.”
sort of… Mustaine has always had a sharp mind and sharp wit, but when he became intellectually engaged and veered towards the Creator instead of black magic/satan, the underground scene ha snever forgiven him.
Slayer on the other hand, they got some Roman Catholics in the band, and the label seems apt.
Assholes. Liars. Double minded.
They are probably still the same fucking dickheads they always were, getting the roadies to steal the kids’ videocameras and kick those fans out, even if they traveled for hours and spent the little money they have for a ticket and to get there.
Fuck Slayer. Unless you truly worship evil? Then they got it down, as they got it down.
Pretend to be nice, but really just a bunch of rock stars which thrash/death metal was supposed to be against.
From the start in the 1980s, thrash was similar to hardcore punk – NO ROCKSTARS – NO BULLSHIT.
But somewhere along the way, it got corrupted.
signing to major labels does have a hand in it.
Slayer’s last good album was Divine Intervention anyways.
and I was raised Roman Catholic, so I think I got a right to call bullshit when I see it when it comes that false religion.
Just sucks that people who believe in the Creator of the Bible, think they got to be stuck there. My father was kind of set in his ways, being a Catholic, but he was very cool with attending Protestant churches when we traveled.
anyways… before I ramble too much more and give my bank pin # or something, back to the vodka and the 3 or 5 good tunes off this new Metallicunt 3 cd set…yeah from now on, with the 3 good songs and maybe some cover songs, instead of all this rehashed Load bullshit?
I am still fucking pissed off they covered It’s Electric, as I had planned to do that..but I never last in bands too long .. People get on my fucking nerves, ya hear me jerky.
Divine Intervention? You sure are generous.
Lol
the left always say that Hitler is the equivalent of Satan and they now ”say Hail Satan, not hail Hitler.” Is it not contradictory?
You created that contradiction out of cutesy wordplay. Only you, my dear B-Witcht, are confused. Maybe a projection of your sexuality? Or of your genitals? Hermaphro-American Deity.
Left wing idiots always underestimate.
Even if I don’t like or agree with many white power groups,
where do you think in Canada are the many members from the 1980s/90s of the klan, heritage front, aryan nations, etc ?
They dropped out as they seen the general public at the time did.
I will ALWAYS have a good laugh when I think of some of the anti-racists’ members I KNOW are there ONLY for the free booze / free drugs, but don’t care one bit about their cause.
The Alt-Right are half steppers. They do things, then dismiss it as a “joke” when they get media attention.
The most disgusting thing about the right is their lack of violence. You think reason works with antifa and anarchists? Violent revolution is the the only solution. I’m sick of seeing tough guy Metalhead do nothing to fight back and let these people successfully do that they set out to do.
Forget Richard Spencer. I would recommend everyone read James Mason’s SIEGE.
That crowd of faggots needs a molotov cocktail thrown at them.
I guarantee that the first one to throw a Molotov cocktail at the government protected antifa would be promptly arrested and serving prison time.
the controlled media make it sound like the police had no hand in shutting this down.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/graveland-show-cancelled-1.3869654
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/concert-by-black-metal-band-graveland-cancelled
https://www.google.ca/search?q=graveland+Montreal+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=uR9BWJXGM4nYjwSh-6qICw#q=graveland+Montreal&tbm=nws
I suggest from now on, large concerts hire their own security so the police have no say.
Bands like RAHOWA or CENTURION never had problems because of the COTC security team
One of the main antifa fags in Montreal works for parliament, they threw smoke grenades in the presence of police, I don’t know the laws in Quebec, but in most places in North America it’s a felony to so much as even possess smoke grenades, better yet throwing them in front of law enforcement. Do the math, it was set up by the government, the cops were in on it, that’s why antifa got off and the show was cancelled. It served the socialist government’s agenda. It’s easy to be brave with government protection. Do you think an alt right group would get away with doing the same thing? No, they would be arrested, labeled a hate group and members would be dying mysteriously AKA being killed by government agents.
I am just about broke, so jail /prison could be my future anyways…
so maybe the next violent antifa outbreak in either Montreal or Toronto, I might be there.
If I am, it will definitely be on tv news, as commies have no idea how much rage I have for the murders of my people.
These fuckers will pay.
The most dangerous person is the man with nothing to lose. I don’t know you personally, but sounds like you might be approaching that point.